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Started : Early 1970's
Area : The Bronx New York
Local lines : 2's, 4's and 5's, I.R.T -Subway Lines
Writing Groups : TC-5 ( THE CRAZY FIVE )
© Interview conducted by Adam James -5- 17- 08 for Subway
outlaws.com
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- From the files of the Crazy Five
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1
) Where did you Grow up and how did you first get involved in writing? Why
did you choose the name FRITZ?
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I
grew on Bronx Blvd and Gun hill Rd in the Bronx. My friend Jingo 222 got
me in to it, He moved to co-op city and hit all the buses. That's how I
got started The reason why I chose the name Fritz is because my friend
Eddie used to come up with a different name every week and he told me that
he looked in the dictionary to get the names so I followed the same
concept and when I opened the dictionary an put my finger in a random page
it ended up over the name of general from world war I, my finger was on
the word FRITZ that was part of his last name.
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2 ) Do you recall
the earliest names you have seen on the Subways and what writers inspired
you the most?
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The
first names I saw was SUPER KOOL 223, STAY HIGH149 and RIFF170 . All of
them Provably would be the most inspiring because of RIFF 170's style and
Stay High149 on every other train. *******************
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My Early Inspiration.........
3
) Could you tell us the first time you hit the Subways, where was it and
what was that experience like?
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The
first time I hit the subways was about early 1972 and It was on the 225th
street lay-ups on the 2 train. It was an exciting experience to do
something sneaky like that and not to get caught.
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4
) Could you tell us how the crazy five started and who were the original
members and who were some the guys that came later?
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I
can not recall how the group started because unfortunately I wasn't one of
the original Crazy 5, but I do know that the original members were BLADE
1, VAMM 1, CRACHEE 11, DEATH, TULL 13 / MARIO. Some of the guys that came
later were AJAX 1, DEVIL, COMET 1, SHAKE, NITRO 1, SILVER TIPS, ROACH,
GEAR, DEVIL, SANTANA and myself just name a few that I can remember.
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5 ) Would you have any
racking adventures you could share with us?
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The
only thing I can remember is that AJAX 1 and I use to go downtown to 72nd
street and Broadway. Spending the whole day there walking up and down the
both sides of Broadway and racking up on cans of paint and other things.
We pinned up our jacket sleeves put the jacket over our shoulder slip the
cans in the sleeves and walk out the door some stores we would go back in
twice.
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6 ) What are all the Subway lines you hit and what lines did you focus
on the most?
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The lines we hit the
most were 2, 4 and 5. The line I focused on the most was the 2 line
because that one passed by my house.
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7
) Other then the crazy 5 what are other writing Groups were you a member
of during the same time?
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The
first one I was ever in was just a local one in my neighborhood that you
provably u have never heard of, it was called TPP and also I was part of
the Nod Squad with the slogan "We smoke the herb, we drink the wine with
the Nod Squad 219." After those 2 groups I met the crazy 5.
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There were
other writing groups who were also big on the trains in my day like T.E.D
-inc ( The Ebony Dukes ), I.N.D's ( The Independents, Ex/Vandals and
Wanted Tracy 168's crew.
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8 ) The buses were
very big in the early 1970's, did you ever get up on the buses and where
were your favorite places to catch the buses?
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I
never really hit that many busses but the ones that I did were in Co-op
City.
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9) The gangs were very big in your era, what were the biggest gangs during
your era and did any of the gangs ever cause a problem for you when getting
your name around?
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The gangs in my era were the White
Angels and the Black Spades and luckily none of them ever bothered me.
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BLADE : FRITZ was
originally from 219th street and began writing with the likes of SHAKE , COMET,
SILVER TIP's, AJAX before joining the CRAZY - 5. Although FRITZ writing career
did not last as long as many us, he did get up at the right time. Years later
me, Fritz and Crachee would join a Disco band and tour through out New York. We
had some great times.
10)
Would you have any raid stories ( chase stories ) you can share with us?
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One story I could remember took place at Esplanade Station and its was the
first time I ever tried to go there if I knew that there was only 2 ways to
get out I wouldn't went. We were inside the tunnel hitting when the cops came we
saw their flashlights and we knew it was time to go. As we ran out there were
cops coming from the other side too so we turn back to go back the
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other way and I found a utility box an hid inside it. Unfortunately the
friend that was with me got caught and we decided not to go to that
station ever again.
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11) What were your favorites places to hit on trains and why?
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My favorite places were 225 st lay-ups and 4 yard under Tracy Towers while
there were being built. There was a worker named Curtis who wore a pair of
dice around his neck. We used to cut out of school and bring him our lunch so
he would let us in the yard and spend the afternoon there.
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12) Can you tell us some of your
favorite master pieces that you seen on the Subways?
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Tracy168's
pieces were the ones I admired the most, he had some really nice work and
as I'm sure you all know he got a job with a big name magazine.
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13) could you tell us all the writers you have wrote with or painted with over
those years and can you tell us who was the best writer you ever wrote with
and why?
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The main guys that
I wrote with in the beginning were NITRO, REBEL , DEVIL, SHAKE / SANTANA, AJAX, and COMET,
The best writer I ever wrote with was probably Ajax, he always knew the
right places to go to.
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14 ) Have you ever been to the writers bench at 149th street to meet other
writers if so what do you remember about it?
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I used to hang out there every other day and the only thing I remember about
it is how we all used to sit there and admire our master pieces as they went
by
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1 5 ) Who were in your opinion the top writers painting the Subways in your
era?
STAY HIGH149 and then there was Blade and Comet those guys had there name
every where
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16 ) What were your favorite master pieces you have done on the Subways and
why?
My favorite was my first top to bottom because it so long do do it and when it
was done you felt really good about it
17) When did you stop writing and why?
I stopped writing in 1976 because I started playing in a band and it took up
most of my time.
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18) Would you have any closing words?
The whole experience was a lot of fun, I made lots of friends who I still keep
in touch with some I have seen and others that I havent have the pleasure to
see lately. Thank you for the oportunity of letting me tell my story that
brought back a lot of great memories. I wish there would be more I could tell
you but its been over 30 and i can't recall everything. Good luck to all the
writers of this era.
P .S, > DON'T GET CAUGHT.
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